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    Question for Lora and Roy

    The event I was waiting for has come about - free shipping from Lee Valley through the 13th.

    So I am looking at these:

    http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...30,43332,43393

    Specifically the large and small chip knives. I have a large (for me) collection of carving tools in a roll. I generally only use them to make fine fixes on flat work. But I have hopes. I really want to learn to carve those whimsical stick toppers. (NO snakes!)

    So, you two carvers par excellance, what do you think? Those knives a good investment? If you have other suggestions, let's hear them.
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    Carol, the link you posted gets routed back to LV home page regardless of whether I click your link or copy and paste it into the browser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    Carol, the link you posted gets routed back to LV home page regardless of whether I click your link or copy and paste it into the browser.
    There was a button under the coupon I clicked that went to the page, goes to the knifes now that I've clicked that each time I click her link above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Reed View Post
    The event I was waiting for has come about - free shipping from Lee Valley through the 13th.

    So I am looking at these:

    http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...30,43332,43393

    Specifically the large and small chip knives. I have a large (for me) collection of carving tools in a roll. I generally only use them to make fine fixes on flat work. But I have hopes. I really want to learn to carve those whimsical stick toppers. (NO snakes!)

    So, you two carvers par excellance, what do you think? Those knives a good investment? If you have other suggestions, let's hear them.
    Theses knifes are an excellent investment Carol, you can't go wrong with them for your future carvings but you will need to hone them when you get them. You can ask Lee Vally to hone them before shipment an they do an excellent job in doing it
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    How can wood carving knives have composite handles?? That just seems wrong to me!!
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    @Bill: I tested it and it works for me.
    @Paul: Yeah, I know, but it is the steel that is the most important. Seems I read somewhere that these particular knives are highly recommended for their steel.
    @Roy: Thanks, I was hoping so. Haven't ordered them though yet. Thanks for the tip to have LV does the initial honing. At least I will know how they are supposed to feel and work before I try to hone them just right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Douglass View Post
    How can wood carving knives have composite handles?? That just seems wrong to me!!
    Some of the new carving tools are coming that way here in the USA , I don't know why except for more comfort but if they do break you have to replace the whole thing, I had the tip of one of my knifes tip broke when I hit a nail that I didn't see but I can regrind it an its still good
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    Carol, the knives that I use are Moor chip knives. But the ones that I use all have the older styled rose wood handles, not the ergonomic handles that Dennis changed to about six or seven years ago.

    I know from years of using Moor tools that the steel is top quality, they hold an extremely fine edge forever, and the cutting points are extremely durable. Dennis Moor's quality of blade is without question the best. But, there is a but ....

    I do own a few of the composite handled ones but just (dare I say out loud) ... hate them. The handle is terribly uncomfortable for my smaller hand size. Plus that plastic handle is slick. To use the few that I do own I have started wrapping the handles with the elastic, self-adhering bandage tape like you get after a blood test at the lab. I find I have to have the tape wrapping to get enough grip without needing a strangle hold on the tool. The thumb and index finger notch moves my grip backwards on the handle, so I can't grip quite as high towards the blade as I like. So, those end up at the bottom of my carving kit, seldom used except for cutting cardboard, slicing foam-core board, or cutting cork sheets.

    I have attached a couple of photos, because you may find the newer composite handles work fine for you. As I have noted over the years, my hands are small compared to my husband's. At the knuckle area of the fingers, across the palm my hand only measures 2 7/8", from the base of the first joint of my second (long) finger to the base of my thumb pad just measures 4".

    Before you buy, you might want to go over to Mountain Heritage and look at "]Wayne Barton's set[/URL]. They are a little more pricey than Dennis' but, if you have a smaller hand as I do, that difference of a few dollars is so worth owning a comfortable knife that gives you hours of fun.

    Just my opinion ... ! Oh, sorry about the Lowe's ad. That is the only yardstick I could find that wasn't all dinged up, dirty, or gnarly. And I did a quick measurement. The width of the rose handle chip knife at the top is 3/4", the width of the composite handled knife at the top is 1 3/16" - a major difference.

    - Lora

    Don't know why the link isn't working, so I will try it here ... http://mountainheritagecrafters.com/...&cPath=148_147 ... and you can copy and past.
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    Oh ... one more quick PS. Would you like to try a wood spirit carving with a guarantee of no snakes what so ever !?! If so, let me know. I have the photo shoot for the planes of the face that I was planning on posting on my blog. They would make a fun tutorial for here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Millsaps View Post
    Some of the new carving tools are coming that way here in the USA , I don't know why except for more comfort but if they do break you have to replace the whole thing, I had the tip of one of my knifes tip broke when I hit a nail that I didn't see but I can regrind it an its still good
    That happened once to me with a FlexCut detailer. I was cutting the v-troughs in a wood spirit's beard in basswood when I suddenly lost the entire front 1/8" of the blade. FlexCut did reshape and re-hone the tip, but it totally lost that wonderful thin leading point. I swear on my great Grannie's stack of Pineapple Crocheted Doilies that I wasn't PRYING ... but dang did it just suddenly break and flip out of my hand.

    Since then I never recommend anyone use exacto blades, box cutter blades, or utility knives for relief carvings, or any other form of carving for that matter. Flipping a tip is so very dangerous that the trip to the ER is never worth the little bit of money that a good steel carving knife will cost.
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