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    face frame and cabinet door ?

    i have been asked to make a face frame that is 54" wide and 40" high with 2 flat panel doors, but here is the catch, they want to match or have them made out of western cedar.. my question is that i dont see the cedar having enough density to hold 2- 26x38-doors? i was looking at having a overlay type hinge setup. could go with the surface mount ones rather than a cup type hinge.. this frame work will be anchored to the existing studs behind the drywall.. its just hiding some electrical and music cables.. any ideas of what to use and possibly stain to match cedar? they are getting a door as well for the nearby opening to the spa.. thanks for any help in advance
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    Could you make it out of a suitable hardwood and veneer it with Cedar?
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    possibly, but would rather make it out of a similar grained wood and stain it brent, less work involved and makes price better.
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    True, Will be interesting to see what the pro's say.
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    Is western cedar aromatic? You could do a thick veneer. 1/16" - 1/8"....

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    I've never made anything of any size with Western Red Cedar, but let me throw this at you: The concern would be the ability of the wood to retain hinge screws, since it's fairly soft. One thing I'd try is a surface mount hinge with a backup on the inside of the door and face frames. Use machine screws all the way through the frame. With the backup on the inside, you don't have to worry about anything pulling out. A dab of paint or possibly chemical treatment will help match the screw to the hinge, if you can't find something to match.
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    bill i had thought of that on the hinges you have a hinge in mind that you think would work? i can deal with anchoring the frame to the wall i just want the doors to hold there
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    I didn't have a specific style in mind - just some suitable surface mount. I'm sure they will want something to match or blend with what they have in the house now. I saw a butterfly hinge that could lend itself to that application, if it blends with their decor.
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    i think i could get the strength i need from these? hinge
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    Does the hinge you specified required or allow mortising into the stiles and frame? If not, I'd look for one that did. An incredible amount of strength comes from that shallow mortise. No mortise means all the racking forces are constrained by the screws only. I'd want much more than that for doors this large.
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