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    I can only imagine that much space

    I understand the want to put in a slab it sure it easier, and down the road the space could be converted to use for cars etc, but I have to say that having made the MISTAKE of not putting a wooden floor on top of my concrete one, I would very seriously suggest that if you do end up with a slab, at least float a wooden floor on it, maybe you can't run your duct work under it, but you can surely run some wires like a wire for the tablesaw in the middle of shop etc.

    Really a wooden floor is the way to go, even on top of a slab!
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    Congrats, sounds really cool. I've led a sheltered life in the states, so: "hydro" is electric (right?).

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    I will show my ignorance, what about in floor heating in the slab?
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    Looking forward to see your progress as it comes along.
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    Looks like it's going to be a good build to watch. Take it easy on that shoulder, know way to many folks that have had to have re-do work due to using them too soon.
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    Downsizing the home and up-sizing the acreage seems like a fair trade to me It looks like a great place to live.

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    Actually 2 -3 acres of usable ground the rest is all terraced rock and a large pond. Unusual lot shape as it is triangular with an odd dog leg and dedicated road through the property, so a 1/4 acre across the rd but pretty much a blank slate. Of course I have to do some updating on the main house right now as it was built as a summer cabin and floor joists are over spanned and under sized. It was built on pad and post and the hot water tank is in a hole in the ground under the house. have had to pull out mouse infested insulation from under the house and will be putting in a perimeter foundation that will be insulated. The hydro panel is perfect size for the existing house but I will upgrade to either 150 amp or 200 amp service depending what the electrician says and then run it underground to the house and reconnect it with the existing panel. The rest of the structure is very sound and just 800 sq ft is perfect for the wife and me. the back of the house faces true south so sun all day long on the back deck. Shop will be facing the same so will get sun right up till it sets.
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ID:	90282 Ok hope these work out ok size wise. just took them with the cell phone. will take some better photos later this week. Just had a machine in clearing out some big stumps of maple. Turning wood) now can figure where I want to put the shop. and get the plans in to get the permit.
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    Congrats Drew. Enjoy the adventure. I'm jealous.
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    Well have hit a stumbling block in the shop construction. Had plans drawn up and ready then talked to our permit office and the building inspector. Seems that unless the plans for the slab on grade ( with edge thickening ) are engineered I am limited to a 592 sq ft that works out to be a 24x24 shop ( still a fair size but not the 24x30 I had wanted). Then I was informed as we live in a climate that might see a few weeks of cold weather in the winter this puts us into a cold climate category ( required to use heat in the winter) and if I want to insulate the shop I have a whole new set of hoops to jump through in regards to insulating the slab on grade ( 2 1/2 inch ridged insulation on the outside of the 8 inch thickened slab that extends out 24 + inches on the flat from the building and 48 inches inside the building under the 4inch thick slab floor). This insulation practice is to prevent heat loss from the inside of the building to the outside that in all practical reasoning would melt any frost that would develop under the slab. This is all due to the imaginary frost level of 12 inches ( ground might freeze 2 inches for a week or two). Unless I don't insulate ( still gets too cold to work comfortably in the shop over the winter months) then I could build the shop that size on wood mud sills sitting on the ground and it doesn't matter what I do with the foundation insulation wise. It could be built any way I like. This is all to do with new building codes that I am guessing were designed for eastern Canada that have no bearing on the mild climate we live through on the west coast. Just makes my head hurt thinking of all this crap they make up. Oh and the newest mind boggling thing is with metal roofing old practice was 1x4 strapping on 16 inch centers covered in roofing felt then the metal now it is regular wood framing with plywood sheathing then felt and metal, no air circulation around the rafters that is unless on a vaulted ceiling then it is 2x4 strapping then plywood then felt and metal. Logic and old building practices are right out the window here and there is no logic at all behind this. Oh and if I do insulate than I have to get new state of the art low E windows if I don't insulate than I can install any recycled double pane windows I want. Did I say my head hurts from shaking it so hard. lol
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