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    Welding or not? Now add some wood...

    Well we here talking about welders on Leo's thread. As I said my little mig was to small for the job I am on. SO I tacked this up with the MIG. (And I tacked up way to much area.) So I ended up trying to weld over to much dirty flux core mig. The welder is Lincoln AC buzz box they still sell. I bought mine second hand at a flea market on 40 highway in Kansas City, Mo for 75.00 well over 35 years ago. I bought some new 1/8 inch 6013 as I had never used it and its supposed to give you pretty(?) welds on AC.

    The project will be a Carry-all for my little B7100 Kubota from the 70's as well. For those that don't know what a 3 point carry all is.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=3+po...m=122&ie=UTF-8

    My Kubota is kinda strange as all the three point items on the tractor are cat 1 size but there isn't enough physical room to mount most cat1 one 3 point attachments. However reducing bushings are readily available. But Cat 0 attachments are quite rare. I actually bought a Cat one at Tractor Supply a few years back but the lower arms on the tractor wouldn't spread far enough to get it attached. Therefor the build.

    I don't have the horizontal arms yet as I ran out of angle and have to get to the steel yard. Made a run to HF today and bought a set of Silver Demming bits so I could more easily drill 5/8 inch holes in steel. I driled the ones for the lower pins with a step drill but had to come in for both sides. SO for 25.00 I got from 9/16 to 1 inch by 16ths and a free set of screwdrivers.

    But back to the welding.?
    The ends I set up where I could weld horizontal and I am basically happy with them.
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    However where I was welding at 45 deg were pretty bad.
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    An overall view of the project as it now stands. Need the lower arms as well as the top link attachment.
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    Garry
    Last edited by Garry Foster; 05-25-2015 at 10:20 PM. Reason: Add some wood working

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    Here are the holes drilled in the ears for the top link with a 5/8 out of the Silver Deming set from HF. Actually worked well.Click image for larger version. 

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    That is a big hole there, did you use some cutting fluid?

    You can certainly do great welds with an old Buzz box, and the new rods are just the ticket keep them in a dry container of some sort so the next time you need to use the arc welder you don't have to buy new rods.

    Look forward to more pics, isn't it great to have the tools to just make it yourself
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    Yes I brushed on cutting fluid several times, it really helps.

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    I also tried reloading the pictures from the first post as when I went to a different computer I couldn't see them..
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    Well, the fellow who taught me what little I know about welding always said "when in doubt grind it out" and then reweld. So if you're not sure about the welds and are trying to weld on slag I'd follow that advice and try to get a good primary bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Mooney View Post
    Well, the fellow who taught me what little I know about welding always said "when in doubt grind it out" and then reweld. So if you're not sure about the welds and are trying to weld on slag I'd follow that advice and try to get a good primary bond.
    I'm pretty sure I have enough weld for this and what it will do. I did grind some out but not much.

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    Welding done only woodwork left..

    Well I finished up the metalworking today. Just need to paint and add the planks. Below is the work i did today..

    First a picture of my old Buzz Box..
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    Here is How I held the ears for tacking. If my welding table looks a lot like my router table it's because it one and the same..
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    After tacking I left the bolt only to hold things in alignment while I welded it up.. It worked as the link pin slid right in, lignment was right on.
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    I finish up the lower arms in the next post..

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    Here is how I made and attached the lower arms.

    As they were small hole to be drilled for attaching the wood I used the mill so I could space evenly without marking and center punching. I usually would have center drilled and then drilled a pilot hole but I just used a letter E drill and cutting oil. The white cup is a Spillmaster and really cuts down on the messes when using cutting oils. even if it gets dumped it lets very little oil escape. I didn't use flash and the pictures are a little blurry.

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    I forgot to take pictures of the setup for welding them on but i used a couple of Kant Twist clamps and a square to tack things up. With such little surface area and the lengths involved it was a little touchy and pictures were completely forgotten.

    After I was done I hooked it up to the little Kubota and I think I am going to really like it. Not counting Rods I have less than 20 dollars in it. If I had too buy all new angle it would be close to $50.00. Wood will be scrap on hand but I may spring for orange paint...
    Here it is attached to the B7100..
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    The welds may not be pretty but I have bounced 250 pounds up and down on the very end of the arms and it seems very solid...
    Last edited by Garry Foster; 04-28-2015 at 11:16 PM.

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    Very cool. Should be very handy to have around to help move things around. Kind of like a small forklift type thing. Nice!
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