# Thread: Stacked Text - Practice

1. ## Stacked Text - Practice

After seeing a couple of items posted elsewhere, I decided to have a go at doing a stacked text plaque (sign, whatever). Below is my first practice piece in MDF.

No attempt at any real finishing yet. The background was cut with a 1/4" end mill. Letters were finished with a 60° v-bit.

In the close-up, you can see how the upper and lower text blend.

I'm gonna have some more fun with this!!!

2. Very cool Bill, I like the look of that.

3. Sweeeeeeeeeettttt!!!!!!!!

4. Nice! I've been eyeing that and have printed out the instructions from the other forum. I've got to give that a try soon too, looks pretty neato!!!!

5. Originally Posted by Robert Johnson
Nice! I've been eyeing that and have printed out the instructions from the other forum. I've got to give that a try soon too, looks pretty neato!!!!
I tried for several days by using logic and I got close. But, there's nothing like the experience some of those other guys have. The instructions I printed out are eight steps that are very straight-forward and I still messed up! When I took a deep breath and went back through the process, I saw what I had missed and it worked perfectly.

6. Would you mind posting a link to the info Bill?

7. Originally Posted by Darren Wright
Would you mind posting a link to the info Bill?
The thread on the Vectric forum I found most useful is this one.

I copied and printed the following from it:

Stacked Text Process

1. Create 2 Layers (Upper and Lower). Leave both visible.

2. Create your upper text on the upper layer. Create another vector as a border, one that will be large enough to encompass both the upper and lower text. At this point convert the text to curves. You can now node edit the text to eliminate loops/artifacts, and 'weld' the touching letters together (if required). Group the entire text (but not the border), and hide the upper layer.

3. Create bottom text on the lower layer. Convert to curves, edit and group the entire bottom text as you did for the upper text.

4. Show the upper layer, then right click on the upper text vectors and border and select the copy to lower Layer option. This will send a copy to your bottom layer for welding. Once again hide the upper layer.

5. Now select both grouped words on the lower layer (but not the border), and click the "Weld Selected Vectors" button (right below the mouse pointer button on the left side under "Edit Objects").

6. Success! Now continue on to machining.

7. Show the upper layer (hide the lower) and select the upper grouped text and the border. Create a V-carve toolpath. I usually cut the first layer to a depth of 0.05 with a 60º bit (tip ground down slightly (0.037) to pocket cleanly between the letters), and a 1/4" end mill for the large area clearance.

8. Now show the lower layer (hide the upper layer) select your welded vectors and the border. Create a V-carve toolpath to a flat depth of 0.1 with the same bits.

8. Originally Posted by Bill Arnold
I tried for several days by using logic and I got close. But, there's nothing like the experience some of those other guys have. The instructions I printed out are eight steps that are very straight-forward and I still messed up! When I took a deep breath and went back through the process, I saw what I had missed and it worked perfectly.
Having read and reread the instructions I printed out (the ones you linked to below), I fully intend to screw it up a few times! That's my MO! Kudos to you for getting a great result, it's quite a design process and then requires successful machining!

9. Thanks Bill! Steps work like a charm...

10. Originally Posted by Bill Arnold
I tried for several days by using logic and I got close. But, there's nothing like the experience some of those other guys have. The instructions I printed out are eight steps that are very straight-forward and I still messed up! When I took a deep breath and went back through the process, I saw what I had missed and it worked perfectly.
Instructions on the internet I've found are usually a 'guide', at least for most things I try and do. What works for one person, or seems completely self explanatory, may not work for the next person. There's nothing like doing it several times and gaining experience and then you'll go, AHA, That's what they meant.

It happens to me several times a week usually.

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