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    As some have pointed out here its just as easy to pick up the pile with a dust pan. That aside, the problem or potential problem I see with a floor sweep is the very real possibility of objects being sucked up into the system that you don't want. ie a nail or screw packaging a larger chunk of wood than you should safely send up the pipe etc. metal may not only spark which could trigger a dc fire or worse an explosion with the dust it also damages the impeller as will larger pieces of wood that are light enough to make it up the pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Soby View Post
    ... That aside, the problem or potential problem I see with a floor sweep is the very real possibility of objects being sucked up into the system that you don't want. ie a nail or screw packaging a larger chunk of wood than you should safely send up the pipe etc. ...
    A piece of 1/2" grid screen eliminates the issue.
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    In my last shop I had one, the shop before that I had 2. When I had 2, I didn't have a lathe, and they got used very little. Pretty much the same reasons already mentioned, the main one being it's so easy to pick up a dust pan and through the stuff in the trash. Also, my chips became mulch around the tress and what not and the sometimes trashy things made it look unsightly. In the last shop I had one right where the lathe sit, and it got used all the time for the shavings. Problem was the store bought plastic sweeps would clog due to their close floor clearance. So I used a 6x4x12 HVAC boot and solved that problem. The shop I'm now trying to set up (my last one, ever) will have 2: one at the lathe and one for general cleanup...but I doubt that one will be used much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Soby View Post
    the problem or potential problem I see with a floor sweep is the very real possibility of objects being sucked up into the system that you don't want. ie a nail or screw packaging a larger chunk of wood than you should safely send up the pipe etc. ... it also damages the impeller as will larger pieces of wood that are light enough to make it up the pipe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    A piece of 1/2" grid screen eliminates the issue.
    I think having the cyclone addresses that issue as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by fred hargis View Post
    In my last shop I had one, the shop before that I had 2. When I had 2, I didn't have a lathe, and they got used very little. Pretty much the same reasons already mentioned, the main one being it's so easy to pick up a dust pan and through the stuff in the trash. Also, my chips became mulch around the tress and what not and the sometimes trashy things made it look unsightly. In the last shop I had one right where the lathe sit, and it got used all the time for the shavings. Problem was the store bought plastic sweeps would clog due to their close floor clearance. So I used a 6x4x12 HVAC boot and solved that problem. The shop I'm now trying to set up (my last one, ever) will have 2: one at the lathe and one for general cleanup...but I doubt that one will be used much.
    I don't have a lathe but the location of my sweep is where I expect to have the greatest need just the same. I do have one of the plastic sweeps though. I'll have to try it out and see if I run into the same issues. If so, there are numerous designs out there for shop made versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Soby View Post
    As some have pointed out here its just as easy to pick up the pile with a dust pan. That aside, the problem or potential problem I see with a floor sweep is the very real possibility of objects being sucked up into the system that you don't want. ie a nail or screw packaging a larger chunk of wood than you should safely send up the pipe etc. metal may not only spark which could trigger a dc fire or worse an explosion with the dust it also damages the impeller as will larger pieces of wood that are light enough to make it up the pipe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    A piece of 1/2" grid screen eliminates the issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennie Heuer View Post
    I think having the cyclone addresses that issue as well.
    A cyclone addresses the issue of impeller damage for sure. There is a possibility (however remote) that a small cutoff might twist and get lodged in a section of duct. Saying that, I don't have screen on my floor sweeps but I pick up anything I don't want going through to my DC.
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    Think of the fun you can have by putting some cheese just inside the sweep and waiting for them varmint mice to sneak up to it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Downes View Post
    Think of the fun you can have by putting some cheese just inside the sweep and waiting for them varmint mice to sneak up to it....
    That is so devious, cruel, heartless, and evil.




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    the caveat to the 1/2" grid is the clog easily with shavings this eliminating any time saving advantage
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    If you have a single stage dust collector (the chips go through the impeller), a floor sweep is not recommended, since an inadvertent piece of metal can create a spark that smoulders in the bag until after you leave the shop.

    If you have a cyclone, the chips drop out before the impeller, so the floor sweep is not a problem.
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