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    Oneida DC...Owners or Advisors........

    I am pretty uneducated about DC.

    In the next few weeks I'm going to be ordering an Oneida Dust Gorilla. I'm looking at a 2.5 HP High Efficiency Super Dust Gorilla and a 3 HP Super Dust Gorilla.

    Any one have any specific recommendations...or pros & cons?

    My shop is 30 x 24. I'll be hooking it to a b/s, jointer, tablesaw, lunch box thickness planer and I'll probably put some kind of port near my lathe.

    Thanks for some advice

    Ken

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    I have an Oneida cyclone and love it. The customer service has been outstanding. I wouldn't hesitate buying from them again, they helped me through installation, setup, everything. Even helped me with a problem like I had just bought the machine but it was a year later.
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    Ken, I've got the 2 HP Oneida DC. It is hooked to my X-31, BS, RAS, CMS and drum sander right now. Each has it's own blast gate, so I'm only drawing from that machine. Well, most of the time. I sometimes forget and I've had 2 and in one case 3 runs open. I saw little, if any reduction in collection from the tool I was using with more than one gate open.

    Much of that has to do with how the DC is ducted. Mine is all 6" until the drop point and my longest run is about 20'.

    I guess what I'm saying is that if the 2 HP you're thinking of is of the same caliber as my 2 HP commercial, it should be plenty to do the job.

    If you'd like to see my set up, let me know and I can shoot some pics. Or, better yet you could see it in person.

    Oh, yeah when it comes to the ductwork expect to spend near, if not more, than the unit itself. I have a place for some less expensive ductwork than Oneida, but Oneida's ductwork is worth the money.

    Are you really going to finish the shop???

    Karl
    Last edited by Karl Laustrup; 08-19-2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason: Clarification

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    I've not dealt with Oneida, but I will say that they seem to have a good reputation.

    Just on the general side of Cyclones, you will love it compared to your two bagger DC.

    Don't forget to take pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    ...and I'll probably put some kind of port near my lathe...
    No probably about it. After you try it once, you will never know how you sanded on the lathe before. I have a Big Gulp, but others just use a piece of 4" or bigger PVC. you'll love watching a stream of sanding dust go diving into the hose straight from a turned piece.
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    Hey Ken,
    I have a shop about the same size as yours and the 2 1/2 HP Oneida is more than adequate.

    The only cautionary note I would raise about Oneida is on the design service they offer. They will ask you what size port you have on each machine and give you a design based on that. Fair enough. Only thing is looking back, I think it might have been a good idea to take out the jig saw and enlarge some of the tiny ports on the TS and jointer - though to tell the truth they work fine with the original configuration.

    Try to minimize the amount of plastic flex hose - lots of friction.

    I worked in a spare drop with a gate and a long plastic hose just for odds and ends. I use it to sweep the floor or I will roll a rarely used piece of equipment (belt sander, spindle sander) up to it. Glad I did.
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    Ken,

    Unless the impeller is larger on the 3 hp unit, I don't see a reason to go with more hp. But, when it comes to DC's, size does count and bigger is definitely better.

    I have the original 2 hp commercial cyclone from Oneida in a 20' x 30' shop with over 120 ft. of 6" pvc ducting. Other than being loud, I love everything about it. I normally just work with one blast gate open but I'm so used to the sound/efficiency that I can tell when I've inadvertantly left one open somewhere else.

    If you can find or build room to install the DC outside the main shop, that's the way to go. I have to wear ear muffs whenever mine is running.

    Congrats on the purchase.
    Cody


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Cloud View Post
    Try to minimize the amount of plastic flex hose - lots of friction.
    Just wondering if anyone's tried using aluminum flex tubing - the stuff you're actually supposed to use with a drier instead of the flamable stuff. I was just looking at some 6" for hooking up the downdraft range, and wondered if it would be better than plastic for dust collection where you can use a semi-rigid hose.

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    Well, whether you have decided about retiring or not, you are making some major decisions!!
    With all the cyclones on the market today, what was it that brought you down to these 2 models? I'm just curious. I'm sure you know I have a different brand and I don't want anyone to start a debate here. I'm just curious as to your thought process.
    Take a big hint from Marty and look around for prices on duct work. He has proven that there are good quality products out there at a fair price. My cyclone cost me about 935.00 incl. shipping. I estimate I put in another 350.00 to 400.0 in PVC piping. My shop is 20 X 24, but my duct work is more compact than some setups. Only 50' of 6" pipe.
    OK, so you have an MM16, a Super Dust Gorilla, and a 8" jointer (Griz 4090?) ready to order. What else are you contemplating getting this fall? Jim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Downey View Post
    Just wondering if anyone's tried using aluminum flex tubing - the stuff you're actually supposed to use with a drier instead of the flamable stuff. I was just looking at some 6" for hooking up the downdraft range, and wondered if it would be better than plastic for dust collection where you can use a semi-rigid hose.
    The stuff like that we have here in Japan, would suck flat the first time you used it.
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