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    reorganization in progress

    While helping Ned build his shop, which seems wide open and airy at the moment with a really spacious 12' by 20' skylight, I wonder if my shop space could be arranged differently.

    I'll add pics to this thread later as well as exact dimensions but wanted to mention a few general things to get my organization part of my brain working. At last count, there are 5 neurons that compose that part of my brain and 4 are down for maintenance with needed parts on backorder.

    The shop is a slightly longer than normal one car attached garage and is 10' or so tall. There is a set of fixed stairs to the basement in this garage as well as a set of folding stairs to the attic.

    The major equipment that live in the shop are an RAS (my first stationary tool, a 12" turreted Delta 33-890, my pride and joy!), a floor standing drill press, a 14" bandsaw, a 6" jointer and the all purpose table (it serves as a workbench, router table and assembly table all as needed - it can also be used as a mobile or stationary support for the RAS) that is approximately 4 foot square. There is also a dust collector, a vertical tank wheeled carriage air compressor and two steel mechanics cabinets. In addition to the shop stuff, there is a shelf that is ~18" by 4' that holds some bench top tools as well as miscellaneous stuff like grilling accessories. The trash also lives in the garage in between trips to the dump.

    The garage is attached to the right side (looking at the front) of the house. There is an entry door to the garage to the left of the overhead door - directly in front of the entry door is a half wall, behind which is the bottom landing of the basement stairs. So, facing into the garage through the front overhead door, on the left is the half-wall for the basement stairs. Along this wall are the jointer and bandsaw. Along the back wall are the mechanics cabinets and air compressor. Along the right side wall are the RAS in the middle, with the drill press to left and the work table to the right. The shelf and trash are between the worktable and the overhead door. The dust collector is in the corner of the back and right walls. Mounted on the ceiling to the front of the dust collector is the ambient air cleaner.

    More to come later, including pics and dimensions.

    Here are the pics! No dimensions yet, I was busy making saw dust and breathing in glue fumes to take measurements.

    These were taken from just outside the overhead door and are arranged to start from the far right corner of the shop (taken from inside the garage) around to end at the left wall of the shop space - the door to the house is to the left of the plywood pile, not seen.

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    There is a wood storage area in a room (an enclosed sun porch thingee) accessed from the door to the left of the red half height mechanics chest. When that door is opened, the home for my Gorilla ladder (currently standing around at Ned's shop construction site) is obscured from view (the blank spot of wall to the left of the red mechanic's cabinet).

    I'm thinking that just some organizing will be helpful. In fact, the only layout change I think that I want to do would be to rotate the storage shelf 0 degrees so that it clears the overhead door by only 4" or so. This way if (when... ) the trash pile blocks access to the shelf I can pop the overhead and get what I need without playing (wife's words) mountain goat. (What's that? You say I could just move the trash pile out of the way? What kind of nonsense is that?! )
    Last edited by Mark Kosmowski; 10-07-2007 at 01:23 AM. Reason: title change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kosmowski View Post
    While helping Ned build his shop, which seems wide open and airy at the moment with a really spacious 12' by 20' skylight,
    ouch

    You heard my suggestions, though I forgot that the landing to the basement is already under the landing to the house...

    I think the rec room needs some more sawdust-y stuff.
    -Ned

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    Sounds to me like you need to get your priorities in order. First off the Mrs can deal with the trash, that leaves you with more free shop time. No need to waste you time trucking it from the house to the garage and then from the garage to the dump when she can do it!

    Second NO TRASH should ever be allowed in any shop. That wastes room that new tools can be occupying permanately.

    Trust me on this, I had this discussion with my wife and we came to terms on this...right before she left me and became my ex!!
    I have no intention of traveling from birth to the grave in a manicured and well preserved body; but rather I will skid in sideways, totally beat up, completely worn out, utterly exhausted and jump off my tractor and loudly yell, "Wow, this is what it took to feed a nation!"

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    Hi Mark,

    I'm with Travis. Move the trash outside.
    Actually, I live in the country and we keep it outdoors in the usual barrels. When we have a load for the dump, off we go with the utility trailer.

    I dunno about you, but I don't think I would last 15 minutes indoors with our trash. We recycle paper, glass, cans and anything else we can. That means that the trash holds only the rankest and smelliest of the household detritus. It ain't pretty.

    PS - looking forward to a FWW visit.

    Ken

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    Hi Mark

    First thing I have to say is your shop has HUGE potential, HUGE..... but, you got to get it cleaned up and squared away. It is not a large space, but you do have a lot of height, and a TON of wall space, plus, you can roll stuff outside to work, a luxury I DO NOT have.

    Think seriously about dumping a ton of trash first, this will give you room to think, then work out a floor plan, and then, build some basic cabinets for them walls, I'm so very envious of guys with lots of wall space, I guess I have WS envy.....

    Keep at it, do a bit at a time, and you will be there in no time.

    Here is what I went from in a couple of years of just banging away at it when I could sneak in an hour or two..........


    In the beginning


    Same space a couple of years later......

    Cheers!
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    Ok. My resolution for this weekend of shop decluttering is to put the new fittings onto the small twin tank compressor that have been sitting around for a long time and take it to the basement. I can always bring it back up later if needed.

    I'm thinking that the first shelf should go between the broom and the door in the half-wall picture. I can go from almost the whole ceiling to about a foot and a half above the floor there (I have some hooks for bungee cords at that height now). I'll make a plywood carcass with screws and glue, and will pre-drill appropriate sized holes in the sides (two each side) and get some shelf holder hardware bits so that I can size the shelf heights to fit what I start putting there. I'll French cleat it in place. This should be able to get accomplished this weekend.

    I am not going to plan on finishing the 5 1/2" "riser" platform for the planer mobile base so that I do not get overwhelmed. This will also let me decide whether to put drawers in the riser or just have it be a shelf. Perhaps the wall shelf will free up enough space so that if I make a drawer I can figure out how to use the PC dovetail jig that hasn't seen use yet.

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    No better time than the present

    The small air compressor is replumbed and moved to the basement. I also put some tools away last night. Pics later after I return from my road trip that includes a stop at the nearest Woodcraft today.

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    Shop Shelf done!

    Even with Saturday being consumed by Ned'sroofing and much of today spent playing with the new toy, erm, I mean, studiously learning about the use of the latest tool addition to the shop (see my first lathe thread in the Vortex), I managed to get the shelf completed.

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    As can be seen, I haven't yet had time to populate the shelf, but this can be done a few things at a time. Even if I only move 1 thing in the morning before work and spend 15 mins when I get home moving more, I'm sure I'll find some horizontal spaces soon.

    Stuart, thanks for the encouragement.

    Board, thanks for letting me post my goal and that I completed it.

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    Hey Mark, looks really good, I'm sure lots of little things will find a comfy home there!

    Could be some of your last flatwork for a while
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    added some pegboard - a minor gloat!

    Well, I had a raging migraine and/or sinus thing after work today that left me almost unable to make it home. However, after overdosing on some Excedrine and drinking plentiful amounts of fluids I noticed that I felt better walking around than laying down. So, of course, I went to Lowes to price some things for the pegboard I planned to install this weekend.

    My garage shop has white painted walls - and the white painted pegboard at Lowes was $3 cheaper than the brown unpainted stuff. Also, they only had one sheet in stock. Since my headache was pretending to go away, I took this as an omen and bought the stuff needed for the project.

    Here it is installed (in case the pic isn't clear, the 4' by 8' sheet is vertical between the two windows).

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    The next projects for shop improvement will be making a rack for the turning chisels to mount on the pegboarded wall section, finishing the mobile base for the lunchbox planer and then getting the Ridgid OSS (with belt option) on a mobile base. Once the mobile bases are completed, I plan to move the drill press out between the bandsaw and jointer (so, among other reasons, it can be used as an outfeed table for either machine) and then the planer, sander and shop vac will be parked between the DC and RAS.

    The level, large rulers and clamps might also get moved from hanging from the air cleaner to the pegboard.

    Again, thanks for letting me post progress pics - it helps me stay motivated - it also helps to know I'm not the only person infected with the Packratum clutteridium bug.

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