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    Veneering without a vacume press?

    I'm adding veneer to the top of two small tables. The Wood Magazine I'm using describes using a vacume press and a bag.
    Can I use heavy 1" MDF layers and bricks or something else? Or do I need to spring for the pump, bag, etc. and learn the vacume method?
    Any ideas?
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    mike, veneer has been applied for centuries without vacuum bags so of course you can! bricks might not offer enough pressure though..how big is "small"?
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    I recently saw a veneer press that uses a series of cauls above and below the pressing pieces. The cauls were spaced about 6" apart and fit into slots cut in vertical stringers (one on each side of the lower and upper pressing form). Each pressing form appeared to made from plywood or MDF and the entire assembly was just clamped to the workbench using the upper cauls. I threw the pic together to better describe what I meant. Sorry... I don't have Sketchup.

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    Billy

    I think I get what you're saying, but is your sketch upside down? That is, with the flat side pressing down on the veneer would the cauls drop down into those slots, and then clamps applies on each end of the caul to the workbench? If you are using a bench for the bottom of the press, why would you need to put another set of cauls underneath the glue up?

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    I've got a few different sizes of press frames that I transfer the screws back and forth to. I just put MDF or ply platens under the screws to spread the pressure and protect the veneer.
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    Haven't looked around for these in a really long time, but last I looked a few years ago the best prices I've noticed on the screws are the imported type that these guys have
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    The Jorgenson one's I've got went up quite a bit since I bought mine.
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    For many projects, the simplest method of applying veneer is using a typical clothing iron. I've done this on flat and, especially, curved surfaces. Apply a layer of yellow glue to the substrate and the veneer using a roller and let it become semi-transparent. Next, apply another coat of glue to the surfaces and let it partially dry. Position the veneer on the substrate and move the iron over the surface steadily and firmly, but don't press hard. With a little practice, you'll find you get an excellent bond.
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    i`ve parked my truck on laminations before....it`s all about making do with what ya` got
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    Why not simply go old school and use hot hide glue and a veneer hammer? I've done many pieces this way and it works well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Knoll View Post
    Billy

    I think I get what you're saying, but is your sketch upside down? That is, with the flat side pressing down on the veneer would the cauls drop down into those slots, and then clamps applies on each end of the caul to the workbench? If you are using a bench for the bottom of the press, why would you need to put another set of cauls underneath the glue up?

    Jay
    Sorry for the delay, Jay. I've been a little busy. Is the sketch upside down? Yes and no. The article I got it from used two of them. One on top and one on bottom. The one pictured goes on the bench as shown with the cauls in the slots... so it is actually the cauls sitting on the bench top. The one on the other side of the veneer sandwich is placed solid side down (opposite from that shown) and the cauls are clamped in place using the bottom of the bench top. The jig uses the flat, heavy bench top surface as the major player with the cauls and jig applying fairly equal pressure to the surface of the veneered piece.

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    Years ago we did veneering with a press in the same methods discribed and additionally, you can use Contact Cement much the same way you put down Plastic Laminent (Formica) Coat each piece allow to tacky and dry, press it on and roll it out.

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