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    Hardwood prices

    I guess I'm getting very old. I used to buy hardwood measured in board-feet. The other day I looked at hardwood in a catalog and they now sell hardwood by the inch. Just my two cents worth.

    DKT

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    Reputable lumber yards and sawmills still sell lumber by the board foot - it's only the high-priced mail-order catalog places that sell by the inch---I guess they think they are fooling someone. And if you sit down and figure out the price, you will be paying about twice the going rate at a sawmill/lumber yard for the same lumber.

    Just another way to shaft the woodworking community.

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    As Nancy said, most if not all yards sell by the board foot. Some give you the choice of rough, skip planed (or hit & miss), and S2S. I prefer rough if I can get it, not always possible out in the desert.

    I've never purchased wood through a catalog vendor, I'd always assumed that the price reflected the level of dressing and their intended market. Isn't it usually listed as "project wood" or some such? Guess I figured it was geared towards customers without the equipment required for flattening, surfacing, and thicknessing, but still wanted to make a little box or something.

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    The Borg's fault !

    When I started doing this for $ the only place I knew to get red oak was the borg. Trick is they sell " dimensioned " peices. In order to facilitate mail order ( or on line ) most outfits sell it as the same. You pay BUNCHES for smeone else to cut and smooth the peices. I finaly wandered into a hardwood lumber company just for laughs and drool over a room of hardwood. Got talking and found not only did they sell by the board foot (a formula I STILL can't get through my GI mind ) the wood is pretty well smooth and ready to go, not to mention less than half the cost as " dimensiond " from the Borg. I get " 5/4 " boards even if I'm going to have it milled down to 3/8ths and its STILL half the cost. If an outfit doesn't sell by the board foot I figure I'm paying WAY to much. Go looking for a place that does. You just can't go wrong. Sorry for running on but it was one of those blinding moments in my life !

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve mackay View Post
    ...Got talking and found not only did they sell by the board foot (a formula I STILL can't get through my GI mind ) the wood is pretty well smooth and ready to go, not to mention less than half the cost as " dimensiond " from the Borg. I get " 5/4 " boards even if I'm going to have it milled down to 3/8ths and its STILL half the cost. ...
    For a board that is one inch thick or less, a board foot is a square foot. For a board that is more than 4/4, say 5/4, then multiply the square feet by 5/4 (or whatever the thickness). See "How to buy Hardwood" at http://www.solowoodworker.com/woodwo...yhardwood.html

    I no longer like rough cut lumber, since I have to at least skip plane it to see the color, grain, sapwood, etc. before I can select my boards.

    The lumber yard where I get most of my wood today caters largely to the cabinet shops, so practically everything is s2s to 13/16 or 7/8, which gives me the chance to do the final planing to eliminate dings, etc.

    I think you will find 4/4 lumber ample to get to 3/4 or less, which will save you about 20% or more over buying 5/4
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    Formula is Length (in inches) X Width (in inches) X Thickness (in inch incruments) Devided by 144 .

    L x W x T /144 = BdFt

    As a rule, all measurements are in Whole Inches unless otherwise designated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve mackay View Post
    I get " 5/4 " boards even if I'm going to have it milled down to 3/8ths and its STILL half the cost.
    By mill it down to 3/8" I hope you're including re-sawing. If not, I'll gladly re-saw it for you if I can keep the spoil
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    LUV to do it !

    but I think ship'n back and forth brings it back up to the Borg $ ! No, they plane it down then run it through one of those monster Time-Saver sanders ( drool ! ). 8 bucks a board and I'm happy.

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    4/4 hardwood lumber will be clean at 13/16 if not then it will not meet grade rules and must be sold as a thiner board.
    Jay

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    'Clean up' is subjective... I've seen some absolute crap rough 4/4 material that was twisted so badly you'd never get it flat in your home shop and end up with 13/16... but when they shoot it through the double face planer, it comes out 'BORG' 3/4".

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