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    Montana Entertainment Unit

    Did a small unit for my Mom and Dad. Dad hauled it back in a Uhaul and had his finisher stain and lacquer in the garage. He got it installed over the weekend. It's knotty alder to match all the passage doors in the new house. He just has to install the crown at the top but otherwise complete.
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    Doug

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    That looks great Doug. Aren't our friends and relatives lucky we all enjoy this hobby? ;-)
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    looks nice doug, seems all the alder i ever get has terrible knots, of course i am trying to get it as clear as possible. the knots it does have have bad cracking or are just a hole straight through.

    yours look good though.

    is that a tongue and groove with a v for the backing?

    chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Mire View Post
    looks nice doug, seems all the alder i ever get has terrible knots, of course i am trying to get it as clear as possible. the knots it does have have bad cracking or are just a hole straight through.

    yours look good though.

    is that a tongue and groove with a v for the backing?

    chris
    Chris out here in CA I think everybody leans towards the more rustic look, so the knottier the better. Since this was for my Dad's house in Mt he also wanted very rustic and knotty.

    The back is an 3/4 mdf core knotty alder veneer face. Everywhere there was a veneer line we beaded it with a magic moulder bead knife/plug. I works well on the mdf. Only problems was trying to get the moulder to work on my sawstop...very difficult but got it to work. I originally bought the moulder for my 18" northfield table saw but since it was direct drive it wouldn't raise it high enough to clear the table.


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    sounds like a creative solution to the dreaded alder veneer, i always hated that. i switched to a red birch for the last 4 or 5 sets of alder i did. couldn't even tell the difference, especially since it was getting a dark stain everytime.

    i quit using alder. too expensive and too much waste. i am using pacific coast maple for the first time. it's the big rage out here now because it stains a little better. cheaper and clearer too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Sinjem View Post
    The back is an 3/4 mdf core knotty alder veneer face. Hi Doug ,
    I am with you to this point then the bewilderment sets in ... Everywhere there was a veneer line ( okay) we beaded it with a magic moulder bead knife/plug. What is this you speak of? can you explain it or show some pictures of the knife and the molded result and the application? I would like that if it is not too much hassle... I works well on the mdf. Only problems was trying to get the moulder to work on my sawstop...very difficult but got it to work. I originally bought the moulder for my 18" northfield table saw but since it was direct drive it wouldn't raise it high enough to clear the table.

    Glad to hear someone else uses northfield equipment.
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    Hey Doug,
    Several other questions while we are at it. Nice piece by the way!...
    How many pieces did you have that broken down into, where and did they seperate? Like the arcs left and right with the straight top center.
    Thanks for the post of work for a favored client!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Schaubhut View Post
    Hey Doug,
    Several other questions while we are at it. Nice piece by the way!...
    How many pieces did you have that broken down into, where and did they seperate? Like the arcs left and right with the straight top center.
    Thanks for the post of work for a favored client!
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    Thanks Shaz, coming for the entertainment unit specialist your words mean alot.
    I will try and get a picture of the magic moulder tomorrow.

    The base is broken down in 3 pieces connected with the fluted columns. Then the top is separate with 1 1/2" alder edgeband.

    The upper is one piece 8 feet wide with 3/4 back...beaded. He still has to install a small crown at the top. I wanted a larger crown but thats what Mom wanted. Also I built a separate toe kick like I do with all my cabinets. So that was leveled and screwed to the floor than the bases attached accordingly. I like the arches and had some ideas for some more intricate work but they wanted to keep it simple. I'll post some more pics when they get the handles, crown and laser engraved metal for the door.


    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Mire View Post
    sounds like a creative solution to the dreaded alder veneer, i always hated that. i switched to a red birch for the last 4 or 5 sets of alder i did. couldn't even tell the difference, especially since it was getting a dark stain everytime.

    i quit using alder. too expensive and too much waste. i am using pacific coast maple for the first time. it's the big rage out here now because it stains a little better. cheaper and clearer too.
    Chris alder is real popular here esp in Tuscan style homes. People like the rustic look. Alder is pretty inexpensive here in Cali.

    Actually I'm getting ready to start a kitchen in red birch. I'll post pics this time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Sinjem View Post
    The base is broken down in 3 pieces connected with the fluted columns. I was thinking, those would be a good breaking points. Difficult to see but it looks like you have 3 interrupted flutes with the center flute being higher? It has a handsome look... Then the top is separate with 1 1/2" alder edgeband.

    The upper is one piece 8 feet wide with 3/4 back...beaded. A very pleasing look with the notty alder veneer. It seems you have joined 2 pieces of 3/4" together to get the 8' vertical grain? Yet, by beading, do you mean beading the mdf panel or did you cut at each joint in the veneer and affix a 3/4" bead of solid stock alder then add more mdf or what? What ever you did worked! Just always curious as to the interesting options different folks have choosen. He still has to install a small crown at the top. I wanted a larger crown but thats what Mom wanted. Also I built a separate toe kick like I do with all my cabinets. So that was leveled and screwed to the floor than the bases attached accordingly. Interesting to hear you enjoy the same choice of base I would install had I the choice. I like the arches and had some ideas for some more intricate work but they wanted to keep it simple. I'll post some more pics when they get the handles, crown and laser engraved metal for the door.


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    It has turned out well. Thanks for the update.
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    i wanna discuss the separate toe kick more, so i'll start a new thread to do so

    chris

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