Is granite a good router table top?

Right. If you insist on the granite, then support the miter slot by epoxying on a 3/4" thick piece of granite.

Some thoughts about this. It seems to me that granite brings more negatives to this than positives. How flat and how thick is this stuff? What kind of infrastructure do you plan under this thing? The granite countertops I've seen are fully supported by a substrate. They are susceptible to fracturing under relatively slight impacts. There is no need for them to be dead flat in this application. And weight can become an issue as well.

The only thing a router table MUST be is flat and REMAIN flat. The reason is that the table top is a reference surface relative to the bit. The best use for a router table is for routing pieces that are too small to support the base of the router when routing. However, the reality is that most use the router table and router as a shaper. Therefor choose a top material that is flat and support it underneath so it remains that way.

With regard to miter slots, consider this. A round cutter like a router bit has no need to pass the material parallel to it because there is no parallel with a circle. A saw blade is a linear cutter and material has to be presented to it at one angle only. A miter slot parallel with the blade is useful, even necessary. Not true with a round cutter.

One more thought, just because there are large router tables, miter slots in router tables, and drop in router bases, doesn't mean that those are the best idea. The thinking we bring to the router and its use is too often lock step with linear cutters like saws. And that can complicate the use of the router and make things unnecessarily difficult, even unsafe, and hugely frustrating.

Just a couple of centavos from the Router Lady (retired).

For more info, come to Burning Wood at Brent's in Nevada in June. Or track down a copy of my book, Router Joinery Workshop. It was printed 10 years ago but the principles of operation don't change.


Carol: You must be quite the celeb. your book is selling for over $100 on ebay. When I started to look I had decided I was going to buy it new but thats a little out of my budget for books. I did find a used copy on amazon for much less and purchased it.

can't wait to get it.
 
well, that book has way more than a hundred dollars of tips and tricks in it, but t a used one has the same info if it has all the pages:) i find it hard to believe there any new ones out there after ten years of time passed from writting it???
 
well, that book has way more than a hundred dollars of tips and tricks in it, but t a used one has the same info if it has all the pages:) i find it hard to believe there any new ones out there after ten years of time passed from writting it???


I'm sure it had a bunch of printings. I bet it was extremely well written and will end up a classic
 
here is what my new router table will be made with

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I thought I was going to go up there and offer the guy $75 bucks for his smaller piece of granite. He said he wasn't going to brake them up so I bought both for $125. He was sick of looking at them and had people waiting for me to turn it down.
I can't argue with the price. so now I have enough for a 50" x 42" granite Ts extension table/ router table, 2- 70 " bathroom vanity tops and will still have some left over but not too much. maybe a heavy cutting board or coffee table.

The jessem router lift and plate with the hitachi m12v attached to it I bought some time ago. I didn't want the router because I already had the newer m12v2 but he would not separate those either. At $150 I figured what the heck. Seemed like a pretty good deal.

The granite is not quite as flat as I would like which would be pretty much perfect flat like my TS main table. It is very very flat along the length but not as good along the width but good enough for me and probably better than what I'm using now. at least it doesn't undulate and as far as any 2' section is concerned its flat. I think they actually make a very shallow and un noticable (by eye) cup in the granite tops so if you spill something t stays on the counter and doesn't go for the floor. Just a thought.

I'm ordering a couple of those cheap diamond bits ($9.99 each 1/2" cutter) . I'm gonna go for the mortice or rabbit (which ever is the correct term) and will also use them to flatten out my miter slot. I'll cut the slot with my skill saw to remove most of the material and tune it up with the router.

As much advice as any of you can throw I would like to consider.
 
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did you ask the guy to cut you a hole in it? rather than you doing the hole? i think you are gonna be surprised when you try to cut granite with your router.. i would have paid the guy to do it..
 
did you ask the guy to cut you a hole in it? rather than you doing the hole? i think you are gonna be surprised when you try to cut granite with your router.. i would have paid the guy to do it..


The guy who owned them was not in the business. He bought them at an auction and never used them. thats why they were so cheep. If I have that hard of a time with the router bit I will just cut away the area the rabbit will be on and do what david agnew suggested.

I plan on doing it outside and run water over it as I cut. Its not optimal and of course the electricy is dangerous with the water but I have cut granite and other stone with my cic saw doing the same thing.

scratch that. Looks like I waited about 5 hours too long to get those bits. I thought $9.99 was cheap. however many they had sold. I have to look for more.
 
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Sorry, I tend to think from the commercial side and independent machines it didnt occur to me the dual role of ts extension. That being the case how does your table saw sit? legs? cabinet saw? That granite slab is going to be heavy and you will definitely need to more than counterbalance it especially once you start running stock through and lean into a cut. you definitely (and obviously) dont want the ts to tip over while your running a cut. Just as an aside, I have the delta 5hp shaper with a 1hp 4 wheel power feeder mounted to it. that powerfeeder is probably close in weight to your granite slab. its on a mobile base and if the powerfeeder is not sitting right over the table when I move my shaper its enough to throw the balance off and tip it. not fun trying to stop 500 plus pounds from going over...

Also, regarding the milling. you may want to at least take the top to a granite fabricator in your area along with what you want milled and get an estimate. you may find it can be done fairly inexpensively and they have all the set ups they need to do it for you. trying to get that miter slot smooth and precise with a skill saw isnt going to be the easy feat you may think. that truly needs to be routed to get the precision depth and width.

Im not trying to be a buzzkill here, just point out some of the pitfalls I see the possibility of you encountering.
 
Sorry, I tend to think from the commercial side and independent machines it didnt occur to me the dual role of ts extension. That being the case how does your table saw sit? legs? cabinet saw? That granite slab is going to be heavy and you will definitely need to more than counterbalance it especially once you start running stock through and lean into a cut. you definitely (and obviously) dont want the ts to tip over while your running a cut. Just as an aside, I have the delta 5hp shaper with a 1hp 4 wheel power feeder mounted to it. that powerfeeder is probably close in weight to your granite slab. its on a mobile base and if the powerfeeder is not sitting right over the table when I move my shaper its enough to throw the balance off and tip it. not fun trying to stop 500 plus pounds from going over...

Also, regarding the milling. you may want to at least take the top to a granite fabricator in your area along with what you want milled and get an estimate. you may find it can be done fairly inexpensively and they have all the set ups they need to do it for you. trying to get that miter slot smooth and precise with a skill saw isnt going to be the easy feat you may think. that truly needs to be routed to get the precision depth and width.

Im not trying to be a buzzkill here, just point out some of the pitfalls I see the possibility of you encountering.

Pit falls are what I want to hear about. I appreciate the info. I have a 3hp jet cabinet saw with something like 50" extension rails. It has the standard steel extension and then it has a home made 49" table attached to that. I have the rails positioned all the way to the right of the blade because I never used the left side. The table will not work for the jessem plate I want to use because of the way I built it. hence the need for the change. The whole thing is on an ugly but sturdy rolling base I made.

But now I'm having concerns for that base.
 
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