as luck would have it, i have 12 really nice off cuts of ash, about 8.5 x 5 inches, and was mulling over what to do with them. then it hit me, the fishing signs turned out pretty good, so, i will do the same with these, but with much prettier fonts. i have 4 short sayings selected, and the vcarve code has been calculated. now i just have to get the m&m machines out of the way. (cnc is sure getting a workout this spring).