I figgered this was as good as anyplace to put this post. I might be getting my hands on some cedar elm fairly soon. Not sure just how much, yet. Storms tore the tree up some and a tree service is gonna take it down as it has a wicked widowmaker on it that might even take a tractor out. Ground too soft to get a rental lift in there and be stable. So, I ain't gonna try it. Especially since I ain't moving so fast right now. My experience with the wood is that it is hard, contrary, yet nice looking. I put a bowl I had done some time back below. Just wondering if anybody else has worked with it.