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Hmm the domino knock down system looks pretty sweet as well... That might almost justify it right there for some usage.
Interesting - only works with the 700 - we haven't even gotten into which machine better fits my needs, the 500 or the 700.Hmm the domino knock down system looks pretty sweet as well... That might almost justify it right there for some usage.
which machine better fits my needs, the 500 or the 700.
Sam did a lot of things that defy conventional wisdom and his furniture has passed the test of time, I have never heard of a failure in any pieces that Sam Made. He once said that a screw as nothing but a steel dowel....lolStructurally I'm going to have to disagree with that somewhat.
The main difference is that dowels will slowly shift from round->oval and back again as humidity changes. This will over the long term break the glue joint in some dowel joints (I say some because it depends on the glue, the wood, the grain orientation, etc.. factors which I would guess Sam was well aware of, perhaps adapted for in some cases, and perhaps didn't care about in others).
A tennon on the other hand is a flat grain<->flat grain structure which is inherently a more stable glue joint.
Whether or not this matters depends on the projects expected lifespan, what the dowels are doing structurally, how the rest of the structure is designed, what specific materials are used, etc..
But there are definite differences in expected lifespan if you measure long enough for same materials and dowels vs tennons (loose or fixed).
Actually, they now make those KD fasteners for the 500, too. As for which machine, I sorta look at the 500 as a 'furniture' machine and the 700 more as a 'construction' version. In 4/4 stock, a 6mm domino fits the "1/3 of the thickness" rule for tenons, and the 10 mm one works that same way for 5/4 stock. If you're getting into heavier work, you might want the bigger machine.Interesting - only works with the 700 - we haven't even gotten into which machine better fits my needs, the 500 or the 700.
Found it. Tempting!Check marketplace Rennie, there’s a nice one in Farmersville, Ohio for $1000 basically brand new
Yes it is a time saver. I have never gotten the perfectly flat, can't tell the boards were joined together glue up. Now it doesn't slip as much as a biscuit jointer for sure, but I always get a little ridge.But you have found it useful - and that helps. Do you also find it saves time?
And just like that it was gone!Check marketplace Rennie, there’s a nice one in Farmersville, Ohio for $1000 basically brand new
Bummer, must be a better deal waiting elsewhereAnd just like that it was gone!
When I am sure that I am ready, it will come. Right now the thought of spending that much makes me break out in a cold sweat.Bummer, must be a better deal waiting elsewhere
I vacillated on this for a while. As a disclaimer, I tend to go with tools that do more than I require as opposed to getting something that will just get me by. Having said that, the Domino is a hand held mortiser. Much of the quality of the result is literally in your hands.Interesting - only works with the 700 - we haven't even gotten into which machine better fits my needs, the 500 or the 700.
Agree! Exactly what Glenn said.I vacillated on this for a while. As a disclaimer, I tend to go with tools that do more than I require as opposed to getting something that will just get me by. Having said that, the Domino is a hand held mortiser. Much of the quality of the result is literally in your hands.
While the increased capacity of the 700 was tempting, I have done enough router mortising to know that I don't want to have to control more mass than required. I use a 1-3/4HP router more often for mortise work than a 2-1/4. In fact I use the 2-1/4 only when I need the variable speed or additional power. That is, I use the lightest tool that will do the job well.
I went with the 500 and have been glad. At 7 pounds the 500 is noticeably lighter than the 11+ pounds of the 700. They are not a tool that I can use one handed like a small router. You need to position it accurately, hold it in that position and orientation and control the tool through the operation.
I would equate operating the Domino to holding a router correctly while edge routing with a dust collection hose connected. Certainly not a difficult task but one that provides better results the more control and experience you have.
A possibility. Interesting description from the sellerRennie..saw a Beadlock kit on marketplace..in 3 Rivers.