segmented bowls and vases my KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLY STUPID) process

I contemplated for some time not posting something like the following simply because I did not want to come off as a know it all, I truly am not. While I have been woodworking for a long time I discovered segmented bowls by chance 3 years ago, I didn't even own a lathe then. At first blush it looked very complex and it took me a bunch of digging and reading to get the process in my head as I was shopping for a lathe. What I am trying to accomplish here is to share how I have stumbled my way through the process of building and sometimes destroying segmented bowls and vases without some of the complexity that can creep into this process.
What I have worked out for myself is, for me, a simple and quick way of designing and detailing a segmented bowl or vase . I am sure it will be repetition and known detail to some but may give some insight of another way of getting a project from concept to spinning on your lathe.

The chart below is the way I try to envision and detail the segment bowls and vases I try to build. The design portion is basically sketched out by hand on a grid on a white board. The segments are recorded form any of the segment calculators available on line and from Google Playstore. I have included some of the calculator links here.
https://www.blocklayer.com/woodturning-segmentseng#google_vignette

That detail is not in the drawing detail as I often decide on the feature ring design at some point after the basic design is drawn out. That was the case here. Anyway hopefully the details here will be of some help to anyone contemplating jumping into segment turning but hesitate because of some of the fog that can surround the process. Please ask any question about any part of the process.
calabrese55

NOTE looking at the finished vase picture the feature ring detail at rings number 7 & 8 are shown outlined in darker wood. I decided to merge rings 7 & 8 into one taller feature ring not detailed in the plan sketch and not in the drawing. I often decide on a feature ring design at some point after the basic design is drawn out. That was the case here.


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i sold my lathe. making segmented bowls are easy enough. Id just count the number of sides I wanted and divided it, never worried exactly how wide a diameter would be, but I could guestimate by the pieces
and when my glue ups werent exactly perfect.............it was another simple fix. I always glued up and made sure each ring had even number of pieces, so Id glue up in halves. then Id hold one flat side against fence and carefully and slowly run the half ring against fence and blade, giving me a perfect flat glueup on the open end of one ring. then glue up both rings. the amount of wood loss was so minute it was never noticed. and all glueups were perfect. cheating yes, unorthodox, probably, but it worked for me.
 
Thanks for sharing a bit of your process, Mike. Segmented turning can range from pretty straightforward and relatively easy, to Malcolm Tibbetts-level work. :thumb:
 
It has been quite a while since I have done any segmented work. The first time I learned to make segmented anything I was introduced to the Bridge City Tools Compound Miter tables. Those tables allowed me to set up for compound miter cuts that ended up in staved constructions.

Here is one of the last ones I did. These staves were cut from 9/4 maple stock. This was turned probably close to 20 years ago and it is still stuck together as well as it was then. It is roughly 5x7.

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Thanks for sharing a bit of your process, Mike. Segmented turning can range from pretty straightforward and relatively easy, to Malcolm Tibbetts-level work. :thumb:
Thanks Vaughn and i absolutely Mr Tibbetts is the top of the mountain. Early on even before I bought a lathe I bought his book. It was / is a great resource.
mike calabrese55
 
Thanks Vaughn and i absolutely Mr Tibbetts is the top of the mountain. Early on even before I bought a lathe I bought his book. It was / is a great resource.
mike calabrese55
I had a chance to handle one of Malcolm's pieces about 15 years ago. It was part of a collection of one of our clients when I was installing artwork in LA. It was one of his earlier pieces, but as soon as I saw it I suspected it was his work. (It was a soccer ball.) It was hollow, but surprisingly heavy, and the joints could be felt when running my fingers over it. Still, it was an amazing piece.
 
I dove into segmenting bowls about a year ago and made a few small ones Out of soft pine just to practice the concept. The results were ok but to do it well I think takes more practice than I devoted to it.
 

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I had a chance to handle one of Malcolm's pieces about 15 years ago. It was part of a collection of one of our clients when I was installing artwork in LA. It was one of his earlier pieces, but as soon as I saw it I suspected it was his work. (It was a soccer ball.) It was hollow, but surprisingly heavy, and the joints could be felt when running my fingers over it. Still, it was an amazing piece.
There is so much talent out there with folks like Malcholm Tibbetts, John Beaver and more. Just when I think for two seconds I might one day be a big dog I see work from the masters and realize I am just the FIRE HYDRANT :fetch:
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John Beaver was (is?) a member of the Glendale Woodturner's Guild, where I was also a member. I've been to his shop and seen a demo of how he does his signature wave bowls. It still boggles my mind how he does it. Sadly, John recently lost his home and shop in the Palisades fire in LA. :(
 
John Beaver was (is?) a member of the Glendale Woodturner's Guild, where I was also a member. I've been to his shop and seen a demo of how he does his signature wave bowls. It still boggles my mind how he does it. Sadly, John recently lost his home and shop in the Palisades fire in LA. :(
Yes I spend a bunch of time looking at his work and I was aware he lost everything in the fire.....from the ashes .... rise
 
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