Suggestions on cabinets.

[Toni Ciuraneta]

Hi guys.
I have a void under the stairs that take me to my shop that I want to optimize its use. So far I have it divided in three shelves, but as it is so deep (1240mm /48.81") it makes it difficult to reach the end of them. So I though about making two side sliding cabinets either mounted on casters, or using drawer guides screwed to the wall.
The drawback is that despite being 48.81 inches deep, as it has a wall in front at 34.25 inches that's the maximum length those sliding cabinets can have, another possibility would be making two cabinets on casters but that would force me to move the first one completely if I need something from the one in the back.

In either case the idea is that whatever I keep in them is not going to be used often, their use is more of a storage of sorts than a tool or hardware cabinet.

Any comments or suggestions will be appreciated.
I include a sketch so that you have a better idea of the problem. You can see the void on the left and the two options I mention, the sliding one in the center and the other on the right.

 

[Jonathan Shively]

Toni, no cabinet suggestion at this time. But ran across this on Facebook and instantly thought of you. Hope you enjoy it.


This "rug" is carved into the oak-wood floor by Spanish artist Selva Aparicio

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

Toni, no cabinet suggestion at this time. But ran across this on Facebook and instantly thought of you. Hope you enjoy it.

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This "rug" is carved into the oak-wood floor by Spanish artist Selva Aparicio

Thanks a lot Jon. I didn’t know about her. That’s a really innovative idea, and no vacuum needed LOL.

 

[allen levine]

im not really getting the picture of exactly what you need, but is there a way to mount the front cabinet on hinges and just open it up to get to second cabinet in back of it?

 

[Darren Wright]

Sounds like with the wall limitation, two cabinets, one in front of the other, may work better. I’d probably base the size of each based on what you plan to store, but preferably the lesser used things in the back one.

 

[glenn bradley]

I agree with one in front of the other. This will work best if the stuff in the rear cabinet is extra stock of things that already have a better location; hardware, chemicals, or rags for example. The rear unit could also be a good stash place for seasonal items like Christmas or Diada, Onze de Setembre.

 

[Don Baer]

Diada, Onze de Setembre.

good thing I have google....lol

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

I agree with one in front of the other. This will work best if the stuff in the rear cabinet is extra stock of things that already have a better location; hardware, chemicals, or rags for example. The rear unit could also be a good stash place for seasonal items like Christmas or Diada, Onze de Setembre.

So they should be on casters and the front one have some handles to pull it out, and the back one recessed ones so that they would not interfere. Regarding the Diada, we’ll see what happens this year. But I appreciate the detail Glenn.

good thing I have google....lol

this is one of the good things about internet. Unfortunately it comes with many others not so good.

 

[Jonathan Shively]

Have you considered 2' shelves along the back of the wall area. The front be a double door cabinet that hinges off of each wall. You would walk top to the front of the cabinet, open the left side and then the right or vice a versa, and they open fully so you can access the back shelves easily. Clear as mud???

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

Have you considered 2' shelves along the back of the wall area. The front be a double door cabinet that hinges off of each wall. You would walk top to the front of the cabinet, open the left side and then the right or vice a versa, and they open fully so you can access the back shelves easily. Clear as mud

Hi Jon, I'm not sure I'm understanding your idea well. Please notice that the width of the opening is only 21 inches so if I understand what you suggest those cabinets would be only 10.5 inches square if they have to swing open on their corners to allow to get to the back shelves.
FYI The opening or void is what is on the left of the sketch with measuring lines.
Having shelves on the back is a good option for the proposal on the right and the front cabinet on casters to remove it completely to access the shelves. I haven't thought about it that way. Thanks a lot.
I include an improved sketch which I hope it helps to understand the problem better. The green sides would be the front of the two cabinets (center) that would slide side ways from the enclosure.

Right option would be two equal sized cabinets on casters that would force to completely move out the front one to access the back one.

 

[Jonathan Shively]

So the opening like these? https://www.rockler.com/swing-out-c...series-door-mount-and-swing-out-complete-kits


They need to be like these? https://www.rockler.com/rev-a-shelf-tall-filler-pullout-organizer-w-adjustable-shelves-432-tf-series

But the limitations are with the sliding ones that the available space isn't enough to allow full access to the entire length?

 

[Chas Jones]

How about sliding shelf unit similar to kitchen units, if it only comes out 70% of the way it would allow you to reach to the back.

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

So the opening like these? https://www.rockler.com/swing-out-c...series-door-mount-and-swing-out-complete-kits


They need to be like these? https://www.rockler.com/rev-a-shelf-tall-filler-pullout-organizer-w-adjustable-shelves-432-tf-series

But the limitations are with the sliding ones that the available space isn't enough to allow full access to the entire length?

if I use the center option they should be like these https://www.rockler.com/rev-a-shelf-tall-filler-pullout-organizer-w-adjustable-shelves-432-tf-series.
and as you mention due to the limitation of the opposite wall distance I will not be able to use the full depth that I have available. The first option you mention I’ve never seen anything like that here.

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

How about sliding shelf unit similar to kitchen units, if it only comes out 70% of the way it would allow you to reach to the back.

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Maybe, I’m not so sure it would be “user friendly” in my case. Thanks a lot though.

 

[Jonathan Shively]

Let's see if I understand this. The void is to the left that you want to use to access the cabinet. How big is the area you are standing at when trying to access this?
Could the cabinet swing into the area you are standing at?

 

[Charles Lent]

An old friend of mine replaced the kick boards of his stairway with drawers that varied in length depending on the space behind the stairway. So the face of each drawer became the kick board of the steps when the drawer was closed. He made pocket hand holes in each drawer face to act as the drawer pulls, so when the drawers were closed there were no handles or knobs to interfere with using the steps. Down at lower near floor level steps the drawers were very long, but being a stairway, nothing was ever in the way of getting a drawer open. Make two drawers totaling the width of the stairway, so you can still use one side of the stairway with a drawer open.

I never did this myself, but liked his idea so much that I have suggested it to several other friends who liked and used the idea. Maybe it will help you too.

Charley

 

[Toni Ciuraneta]

Let's see if I understand this. The void is to the left that you want to use to access the cabinet. How big is the area you are standing at when trying to access this?
Could the cabinet swing into the area you are standing at?

The void is the actual void where I want to fit the cabinets in ( on the left of the sketch with measuring lines in mm) The cabinets proposals are the one in the middle and the one on the right. So they would fit inside that void. The problem is that I have only 870mm free room in front of the void. So if I choose the center option those two sliding sideways cabinets cannot be as long as the depth of the void. Besides they would be quite short about 10”. Hence the second option that would mean that the one in the front should be on casters to remove it completely to access the one in the back.
I hope this clarifies it better.

 

[Charles Lent]

Maybe this will help then -

stairway storage under the steps ideas - Google Search