Buffet-Mahogany and Sapele Ply-planning stages and first cuts

allen levine said:

...I gotta tell some of ya though, maybe this is above my level, and Im struggling,but I love this stuff.

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Maybe it is above your level now, but by the time you get done with it, it won't be anymore. I know the feeling, though.

allen, i have cut pieces wrong twice in a row also, so don't feel bad. it happens, especially when you're cold like that...your mind is elsewhere.

just remember, if you could walk out into the shop, and throw this buffet together with no problems or speed bumps, would it be as much fun? prolly not. challenging yourself and learning new stuff is the best part about it.

have fun
chris

i told ya allen you would be having dreams your hooked so far you will never be the same,,, now that you know what the symptoms are you can stay away from those spinny things and wont be come infected by that dreadful disease using planes and hand tools is ok its the spinny stuff that wil make you dizzy doing good allen

ya know larry, she sold that lathe I had mentioned to you a while back, and she didnt even have the courtesy to tell my buddy after he told her I was interested. I insisted he called her after well over a month and he didnt hear from her.
I would have stuck it in the shed for a while.

I thought I cut it right, but I cut the back rail support wrong again, but too long, so its just a recut.

some pics of the framework coming together. I have to cut a curve in the front rail,(wish I had a bandsaw) didnt want to start cursing till tomorrow, so I left it straight for now.(Im going to spray some adhesive onto the wood, put the curve on paper on both sides identical, flipped over ofcourse, and cut with jigsaw, use a drum sander bit on the drill press to smooth out the curve)

curve section

hey allen for your curved section,take and make a pattern outa some plywood, cut to the shape you want and sand smooth then use your router and pattern bit to get final piece smooth after you cut with jig saw unless you got a steady hand on your drum sanding..you stick the pattern on top of your good piece with carpet tape

sounds easy enough.Larry, Im not going to cut out the entire bottom rail, only the curved section, si?

Good PROGRESS, Allen, (and good advice from Larry too).

keep going allen! you're past the point of no return on this project, she can't stop you now!!

good work going into this one, and i'm happy to see that i'm not the only one who writes the name of the parts in chalk.

Cutting the same part wrong 2 no 3 times? You'll get no comment from this peanut gallery Been down that road a time or two If close the shop up early and come into the house and quietly sit down with an adult beverage of choice my LOML knows I've screwed up and doesn't even ask any more

Welcome to the joys of woodworking 101

By the way I still measure twice and still screw up on occasion!

Great Job Allen, I have also made some of the same wrong cuts on the same piece myself. There is usually a lot of talking going on in my shop when that happens ..... even though I am out there all alone. Also many of the problems I have when doing a build like this one is solved while in bed. The answer comes in the middle of the night. Some times I have to get up and write down the idea so I will remember it when I wake in the morning. Ain't this sawdust making stuff fun.

Allen, you're starting to amaze me again.

Ron Roase said:

Great Job Allen, I have also made some of the same wrong cuts on the same piece myself. There is usually a lot of talking going on in my shop when that happens ..... even though I am out there all alone. Also many of the problems I have when doing a build like this one is solved while in bed. The answer comes in the middle of the night. Some times I have to get up and write down the idea so I will remember it when I wake in the morning. Ain't this sawdust making stuff fun.

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Rennie Heuer said:

Allen, you're starting to amaze me again.

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ron thats exactly what i referun too, sometimes what seemed to be a very stubborn obstical just feel in place while tryun to sleep, and so i to either mentioned it to the better half to remeber,,those feamles are better at remebering than us males or will write it down as well.. and allen your doing fine,, also for sanding that piece use a piece of the cut out stock to final sand with,, that already has your acrch and will avoid the humps and bumps you can get with the drum sanding...

another update. I cut up all the MT joints and cut to size the rest of the face frame and fitted it nicely.
I made another huge error. I didnt allow for the tenon length when I figured out the numbers for the face frame stiles, making the center doors a bit wider than I originally planned. The numbers were right on my paper, I just ignored them and cut the mortises wrong, but cut all on top and bottom rails in the same spot, so although its not what I actually drew, my wife said its fine. I was about to flip over both rails and start remortising, but I cut the center rail accordingly, it all came together.
I cut the fake draw fronts, have to figure out what edge to put on them.
I finally got the back support rail in, and the cleats, (did not secure any of them, other than one screw to hold them up), the base of the cabinet will rest on the cleats, and on top of back bottom rail.
I dont think the bottom will bend at all, its going to be ply with support.
IM up to the front rail, I have to rethink my original cut, but Im not sure I wont ruin it, so I decided to have lunch and think about it.
The word is chutzpah, I just dont have the chutzpah to make that cut, Id hate to ruin the piece at this point, and cutting a new bottom rail will set me back a week at least, gotta take out all the other equipment, so Ill sit here and frown over it. some pics where I am....if anyone cares to look.
one more thing , the design was simple, keep it simple stupid, always goes well for me, and Im going to use 1/2 inch overlay non mortise type hinges, probably a darkened bronze color, wraparound or half wraparound,I was going to make inset doors and drawers, but once my wife said she didnt want draws, well, and she thought the cabinet doors overlaying the face frame was beautiful, so thats what I did, made it that much easier for me.

ok, so larrys idea sounded good to me, I wasnt going to make any drastic curve cuts or anything close, but I wanted something on the front rail.
Cut the pattern and sanded nicely using particle board.
only made a bit more than half the length since its straight in the middle.
Did one side, flipped the board, did the other, hey, it worked, so smooth, dont go accuse larry of just being another pretty face.

I gotta stop taking my camera downstairs, heres the end result, ofcourse, the picture at the end came out blurry,

thanks for the tip larry.

hey alle n yur safe no and i mean no one will accuse me of being purty and as for the tip, i learned it the same way yu just did,, from someone else on here and buy doing it. so just one more time the family forum showed its stuff!!!

ok i am gettin forgtful

allen what are you using to make your mortise and tenons? cause they sure are coming out well on this project

another tip I got off of someone here, sorry I dont remember who, but when I was running the boards through the tablesaw for tenons, I was dragging the wood against the wood on the fence the entire cut, kept getting hung up and off cuts. Now I push the wood off the fence(with the mitre handle), and the wood is free of the fence when passing over the blade. Simple solution yes, but I didnt have a grasp on this stuff yet.
Freuds 6 inch dado set, dont recall number, the one in the red plastic carrying handle, cuts all my tenons clean.
Deltas mortise attachment on the drill press does all the mortises.

thanks for the refresher allen, i think you got it on the up swing now

way to go allen! keep up the good work! ah, ah say ah acuz larry of being purty!