THey do............I didn't turn then............Interestingly....Wednesday the LOML and I discussed what we wanted for Christmas should the kids or grandkids ask. THe kids called inquiring yesterday morning. Excellent timing. We got airline tickets for each other. My wife is going to Illinois to spend Christmas with her recently widowed Mom. I'm going so that I don't have to spend Christmas alone. Prior to last March when I became a turner, I'd give her a list of 60' & 70's music cds I wanted or a gift certificate to HD..........Now.....the only time I go to HD is if I need some finishing products for my turnings......That'll change after Christmas.....The diving board lathe bench is coming down and finishing my shop is going to be my driving project. Next year should be a BIG Christmas for me........we've budgeted for me to buy a bs, dc, aircraft carrier jointer a PM 3520B and other goodies. So....the shop is going to get finished this spring and cabinets built.