Yeah, "Cheers" is the way I've been signing e-mail and stuff since I got on the net in about 1996, just my way of signing out, hope that is OK with you.
I thought it was a big deal.
I understand that you thought it was a big deal, and to you, it certainly would be a big deal. I very much doubt this will make you feel any better, but I spend 3 to 4 hours a day dealing with "things" that come up here on this board, I'm not complaining, I'm just relating to your frustrations. We are all new here at running this software, we are trying our level best, ask my wife, or Vaughn's wife how many sleepless nights we have spent getting this place up and running, and the frustrations on trying to make it work are real, so I can relate, and again, all I can do is apologize for the trouble you had, it was not planned it is not personal, and it was not intended, and we are very, VERY sorry that you did have trouble signing up.
I tried and tried to get in touch with one of you with no luck. I even tried other forums.
I take it this was before we realized that we had one setting wrong in the admin CP, the one we fixed a few days ago, the one we apologized for being not set right..... that one?
As for other forums, if you tried to get hold of any of us staff here at FW via SMC, we are out of luck, we have all, with the exception of Steve Clardy (I think) been locked out of our accounts, they changed our pass words on us, so we are still there
but we have no access to our accounts. To be honest, since embarking on this trip set up FW, I've had very little time to visit other forums, most of them I have set to NOT get an e-mail from when I get a PM, as I get hundreds of e-mail daily at work.
Then I had to deal with Verizon on the phone for over 1/2 an hour just to get a real person whom I couldn't understand because of their accent. After mentioning "Home Security" over and over I managed to talk to a person who had no idea what a pop mail email account was or how to find my account, much less my password. I had to give up but tried again the next day. After the same 1/2 hour rigmarole I finally got to somebody who could help me.
I'm really sorry that you had trouble with your ISP, I can relate, as we went through a similar thing recently with our up grading to a higher speed ADSL, and we had massive problems with it, I had to do all of that same stuff, but in Japanese, so I can really hear you on that one.
Again, all I can do is apologize, and thank you for your tenacity and patience, as it led us to fix a problem we did not know existed, and has brought this subject up for discussion again.
This all had to be done in order to access a internet forum that any can get into regardless of what this joint wants to do to keep out the 'trolls'. None of the other BBs I frequent require non web based email acct. Not one.
Don't know how I'm supposed to respond to this one....?
I have spent well over an hour just to be able to post these 2 posts and am not happy with the responses given.
What would make you happy Nic? If you would like the "no web based e-mail on sign-up" policy to change, why not change it, start a poll, if you get enough votes to change it we will change it, that is the way things are done around here, we are member run, so take the bull by the horns and do something about it. We had a vote on this before, and at the time, the members voted for not letting web-based e-mail in, with out an extra step.
I think there have been quite a few people who have contacted us with a valid reason why they want to use their web based e-mail account, and we have signed them up. If you would like to know the truth, it is a lot more work for us, as we have to create the accounts and then send out e-mail etc, but, we set it up as a simple line of defense, this was not the choice of one guy, but of the group.
So I guess you guys can just keep patting yourselves on the back about what a great job you are doing and I'm sure everything will turn out right.
Well Nic, you are wrong, we don't go round patting ourselves on the back, we are trying our best to build something here that is different than other places, YOU have a say here, and YOU are saying it, and your post will not go "POOF" just because YOU don't agree with a certain rule or policy, YOU can make the rule or policy change, as we are member run, which means all of us give our time and effort to make this a better place. I could have easily just ignored you post and went on my day, but I did not want to do that, I think I owe it to the whole board to address you concerns and answer you questions the best I can. My previous answer was short, sorry about that, but I work 14 to 16 hours a day, and we are busy right now, so I don't always get a chance to spend as much time answering questions etc as I would like to, I do my best, and I'm really sorry if that is not good enough for you, but I am trying. I just spent most of my short coffee break answering you questions and addressing you points, I'm fear you will not be happy with my answers, so be it, but they are honest and as truthful as I can make them.
I sure hope you can help us run our site, and contribute to it in many ways, I seem to remember your posts about bandsaws over at SMC.....? MM16 and a 10" saw? very much the set up I'd like to have, so I hope you stick around and forgive us our growing pains.
BTW Tod, thank you for the post on this subject. It seem as you still have an open mind and at least listen.
nic
Yep, that Tod guy is top drawer.
Cheers!