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    Design critic wanted

    READ THIS before answering! This is a mock up, it is not glued together so the joints are loose! The sanding is not done. Lots of things not finished. OK?

    So with that out of the way I wanted HONEST input on the concept/idea for this box. Not the execution because it not finished! This is my second attempt at this idea. In my opinion the sides are too thick when you look inside it, but they are just right on the outside for the joints.

    I was going to to do something different on the lid but after getting this on the box I think it might work. Needs to be simple not to distract from the box joints. Maybe just round the edges.

    OK, now I am open for honesty. I am not thick skinned but I promise not to get mad if you hate it. Just say it nice. I really do want to know if you don't like it.
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    Okay, I'll take you at your word that you won't hate me...

    I find the large box joints overwhelming. I'm not sure what look you're going for here, but I think by having the box joints thicker than the top you have an imbalance. If you're trying to make it look heavy and solid, think about making the top thicker.

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    Jeff, what is the box to be used for? I agree that, at first glance the sides and top appear to be too thick. But for certain contents (say a large book) the thickness would be fine, where for others (say jewelry) the thickness would be inappropriate.
    Cheers, Frank

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    Jeff

    If you want it to have the massive look ............Just considering at it as is, without the benefit of its intended use, I think it would be cool to make the top the same thickness as the box/finger joints. And really work hard at getting a tight seam between the lid and the top of the box. Then it would look more like a solid block, from one side the top would look like a continuation of the bottom of the box.

    But, if you aren't trying for a massive look, then I would suggest thinning down the sides and using more joints for a more delicate look.

    Jay

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    If I were making a dynamite box I guess it would be ok but for anything else the box joints apear to big and the wall thickness are just to big to suite the size of the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Horton View Post
    READ THIS before answering! This is a mock up, it is not glued together so the joints are loose! The sanding is not done. Lots of things not finished. OK?

    So with that out of the way I wanted HONEST input on the concept/idea for this box. Not the execution because it not finished! This is my second attempt at this idea. In my opinion the sides are too thick when you look inside it, but they are just right on the outside for the joints.

    I was going to to do something different on the lid but after getting this on the box I think it might work. Needs to be simple not to distract from the box joints. Maybe just round the edges.

    OK, now I am open for honesty. I am not thick skinned but I promise not to get mad if you hate it. Just say it nice. I really do want to know if you don't like it.
    Okay Jeff, "you want the truth??? You can't handle the truth!"...Jack Nicholson to Tom Cruise...
    Just poking fun, actually the second photo looks real nice proportionately. I think in this case it would work if ,oddly enough, that which you present in the box deems it necessary to use that thick stock. Maybe large piece of shrapnel( don't laugh, I have a small piece that is worth me building a box for), or a civil war musket ball. I'm not trying to be funny, Just believe that whatever you put in there should command that weighty a box.
    Enter another option, if you have the ability to crosscut dado (eliminate the yellow)
    the sides you could thin the walls, if the thickness bothers youClick image for larger version. 

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ID:	1888. Another option would be to run a rabbet around the top lip therefore thinning the look upon opening, rabbet deep and set in a tiny drop in drawer, and the list goes on and on. Good luck and keep questioning.
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    Gee, talk about honest!

    OK, I like it but I can tell I am in the minority. But that is why I asked. Wife didn't care for it either. Guess I should have listened to her.

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    How about making the four sides the same; one one 'fork' one 'pin' so it's like a short chain of pieces? Did you particularly want box joints or would a honking great big single dovetail work for you?
    So do I type something witty here?

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    Hi Ya Jeff. OK here you go. I think the joines are a a little too short. They need to be a bit rounded over insted of trying to make them with a chanfer.
    G&G made box joints like that and did them very well. What they did do differently was they made the center one wider than the outside ones. Then they put a ebony black squre slug in the center of the two outsude joints and made the top in a pyramid shap on the ends. The top might need to over lap over the edges a bit and have a maybe some kind of o-gee edge but not comming to a square bottom insted let it round over under the top to give it the strong bold look your looking for
    Reg
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    Jeff,
    The thicknesses of the lid, sides, and finger joints are well proportioned, but a statement of this box’s purpose is integral to a critique request.

    Frank

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